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Please could you comment and the two links I'm about to post. Its me and my friend working on some snatches last night.
Basically we both started crossfit about a year ago. As we have gone on we are already starting to compete in various competitions around the uk.
Both of our fitness levels are ok, However our olympic lifts are letting us down BIG STYLE! Since we don't have a qualified olympic lifting coach at our gym we are pretty clueless. We been basically focusing on Calstrength vids online/The Outlaw way, to improve our technique up from that. Since we both have zero experience in olympic lifts we are pretty clueless.
Here are some stats about my self and meg to give you a idea of what we could be lifting (Basically i can power snatch more than i can squat snatch! But i would rather drop the weight and nail my squat snatch for later down the line)
Current squat snatch 65kg (awful i know)
Back Squat 140kg
Front Squat 120kg
Strict press 70kg
Squat Clean 115kg
Clean & jerk 100kg
Back Squat 82.5
Front Squat 65kg
Clean & jerk 60kg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJpikKvO … ature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt9cZSoT … ature=plcp
I appreciate any input.
Hi Rick and Meg! That's awesome you guys are getting into weightlifting, I'm pretty new too. I am not a coach or expert, but it looks a little like you guys could stand to be over the bar a little more on the second pull. It's hard to tell from the videos, but when you catch, do you feel forward? I am not sure if you're super tall/super long arms, etc, but it looked as if you finish your pull a little low which could put you forward. Also, I know it is hard since we strive to put more weight on the bar, but I agree with you to drop the weights and have better form than doing everything in the power. But if you do catch in the power, make yourself ride it down. Eventually the transition will be smoother. In the long run you'll be able to move more weights. Have you watched Glenn's demo videos of the positions? I know they are further back in the Cal Strength youtube log, but I think he explains everything very well. Once you feel the perfect lift, it will all click. Is it possible for you to go to even a clinic or seminar; it might give you that one cue or adjustment that puts it all together for you. I look forward to reading your logs
Hi Rick, thanks for posting! It's great that you have gotten into the lifts, and we appreciate you watching our videos and following our team!
It isn't unusual for people to be able to power snatch or power clean more than they can full snatch or clean at the very beginning. Oftentimes it is a flexibility or joint mobility issue that holds them back from being able to catch their lifts in the hole, or even get down to the proper position. It looks like you are pretty good on the flexibility and are able to get there, it will just be a matter of getting the repetition to get accustomed to the movement.
Regarding your lifts, this is what we'd recommend you work on based on those videos you posted:
Rick - you need to keep your knees further back when you are pulling off the floor, and you really need to move your feet when you are extending up from position one, and work on pulling yourself under the bar instead of pulling the bar up. Your feet should hit at the same time you are catching the bar at the top, and this should help you to be able to catch the bar in the hole. Hopefully all of that makes sense.
Meg - your setup in position 1 needs to be more vertical with the chest. In Position 2, your knees need to be back more. Do this by lifting your butt a little higher in position 2, which will stretch the hamstrings. You also need to stay on your heels during the pull so you aren't getting pulled forward.
Hope those tips help, and hopefully you can find someone close to you to help coach you with the lifts. Looking forward to more posts and to seeing your lifts improve!
Here is a updated of me snatching. Its around 62.5kg, which isn't the heaviest, yet my form still seems to be failing the heavier i get.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrqu9RR2 … ature=plcp
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
nice and quick! keep the elbows high on the second pull to keep the bar closer to the body, it looks like the bar is swinging away on the turnover/pull under. high elbows and relax the arms so they can whip around faster. always be fast in your turnover. also stay on the heels during the second pull, you are jumping forward because the weight is pulling you forward. look up the "burgener warm-up" drill on youtube, it can be helpful but you must understand the REASONS and PURPOSE of doing this warm up, pay careful attention to these drills. I just had a Certification with Mike Burgener so ask me questions on the burgener warm up while its still fresh in my mind. Also this is super helpful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4RPo_cgbGs hope this helps